Rush Limbaugh interviews Donald Trump (04-15-2011)!

RUSH: You said we have stupid leaders here. It's almost as though -- this stuff can't happen in a vacuum. There has to be some reason this has been permitted to happen.

TRUMP: It is actually happening in a vacuum. Now, look, the debt is not a problem because, hey, look, nobody, Rush, over the years I've done tremendous business with banks, I work things out with banks and it's not difficult